Gamergate Triggerhappy: Officer D.va
It seems the Social justice warriors don’t even need an ass anymore to be offended at Overwatch. I don’t now how any times they’ve lashed out at the game for the most retarded reasons. A character being show from her back? sexism! think of the children! a zombie skin making a character skin lighter? racism! whitewashing! literally no one is complaining about a character being gay? let’s make up a non-troversy! those who think the story wasn’t handled well are homophobes! And the newset installment of “im offended by everything” is: D.va gets a korean police officer skin, and the SJWs, specially those from Black lives matter, lash at Blizzard for doing it because aparently all cops are evil and giving her a police outfit is making her a symbol of opression and brutality. I guess the next step is to forbid war themed games, because they promote brutality and opression.
By the way, sometimes i see the usual anti-gamergate (not here, they seem to be afraid of debate even online, probably because if they argue with me directly they would be silencing a hispanic D:) claim that the lines my characters say in the comic are strawmans, things that the SJW don’t really say. Well, the reality is that the vast mayority of lines my characters say, are actually quotes of lines said by real people. And in this case, the crazy line about D.va being black and in support of BLM is an actual claim said by someone on Tumblr.
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Overwatch : International task force to put down rebellions and terrorist plots…. They always were law enforcement
>literally no one is complaining about a character being gay?
Except the thousand of people on gamefaqs, blizzard official forum, 4chan and reddit complaining about “agenda being forced”.
Whiny, lying gator.
Talking about something being done just to push an agenda is not the same as complainiing that the character IS gay 😉
I saw plenty of people complaining that she was gay because of how bad it was in character design. None were said being gay was bad, but merely that her being gay was bad.
Yeah, there was people talking about various things regarding if they think the comic was well made, or if the think Tracer was originally straight and changed to appease Tumblr, or if it made her stereotypical because she had a visual design typical of “dyke” designs, but those are different things to not wanting game characters to BE gay or having anything against gay. I never saw even a single person saying they didn’t wanted gays or that the problem was on itself that she was gay. But that was what the sjws and the media claimed to happen.
>I never saw even a single person saying they didn’t wanted gays or that the problem was on itself that she was gay
lol, what a liar. Just check blizzard forum, plenty of people complained about her being gay, about how Blizzard ruined a Christian tradition, how they were forcing gay characters on everyone, etc. Every time there is a gay character you complain about forced diversity and how characters sexualities shouldn’t be mentioned..
I guess you just “never see” things that further your agenda, but a couple of idiots bitching on tumblr? That’s a clearly a shitstorm that everyone needs to be aware of.
I was linked several times to blizzard posts where “suposedly” that was happening, and when i went, there was no one complaining about her being gay. All of the comments where always about the way it was implemented, or casting doubt on the intentions of blizzard, which are completelly different things to having a problem with gays themselves. You should learn that difference to not keep spreading the same misinformation the media did.
Oh, and btw, even if there happened to be someone who actually was against gays on that storm, two things:
1. The fact that no one has ever being able to show me even one of those, means that the number of those must be so extremelly small that it has absolutelly no relevance, much less to write articles claiming that “the gamers” are all homophobes who don’t want gays.
2. You realize that not knowing something and lying are different things, right? even if i was hypotetically mistaken and there was some kind of huge group of homophobes that no one has ever being able to point me out to nor any media has been able to report on, it would just mean i don’t know them, not that i’m lying.
>I was linked several times to blizzard posts where “suposedly” that was happening, and when i went, there was no one complaining about her being gay
Seriously, what do get from lying?
I understand you are not used to discuss things since you just draw comic based on strawmen on non-existent shitstorms (5 people being mad on tumblr=sjw are mad. You gotta wonder how do you even find these things? Do you spend your time on turmblr, searching for these comments? Do they send them to you? Do you even check the source? Are you well? It seems like obsession to me? Or you just do it for the money?), and KiA is like TEH echo chamber.
But do you really think no one was “offended” (A word you guys love!) by a character being gay? You think you can pretend people didn’t saw the week-longs shitstorm over a character being gay both on blizz forum and /v/? You are sententially arguing homophobia is dead.
Even people who said they were fine “fine” with Tracer being wrote rants that really show you they were not fine. “It’s not like I have a problem with gay, I just think you should stop forcing the gay agenda on games! I’m totally not homophobic! Teheheh”.
#notmytrace
“I’M NOT HOMOPHOBIC, BUT I DON’T THINK TRACER SHOULD HAVE BEEN GAY!”
https://i.imgur.com/hobIv3C.png
I find funny that you can find 6 tumblr user bitching about V.Da’s Skin but you find can’t posts about people complaining about Tracer being gay, a thing that went on for days.
https://youtu.be/jMlqojUAxDI?t=82
It almost sounds like you have an.. agenda? Narrative?
Oh I forgot, you can also see people TOTALLY not offended and TOTALLY being fine with Tracer being gay in that very video I linked.
https://i.imgur.com/o6251Vm.png
Totally fine with Tracer being gay!
>You should learn that difference to not keep spreading the same misinformation the media did.
lol the evil media manufacturing shitstorm. Everyone was actually fine with Tracer being gay!
>Proclaims to have proof that hatred over her being gay is all over the Blizzard forums
>Links a picture of a post that criticizes the timing of it & stresses that that is the sole issue with it that the poster has
>Links a video where the title of a post (the title being the only thing provided in the video) calls out the one-sidedness of Blizzard’s “diversity.”
No, please. Continue to insist you’re not full of shit when what you’re doing is desperately over-interpreting posts through the lens of eternal victimhood.
So, your entire argument consist on keep conflating (i guess on purpose since i already pointed it out) “he hasn’t seen this one” with “he’s lying”; to make acusations of character of someone you know nothing about (and are incorrect), and to pick a valid argument from one side and trying to throw it back without any sense just because, like a kid?
Also i clicked the first link and the first thing i see is “there’s nothing wrong with Tracer being gay” and a guy complaining only about the timing of it (which i find kind of ridiculous but is still not someone saying he don’t want her to be gay), so i guess i’ve STILL not being showed what you claim.
I think i’ll have to insist on the first point i did (and see if you ignore it as much as the second): If people saying they don’t want here to be gay would be everywhere as you claim, it would be very easy to show me, yet everytime someone shows me a link, it DOESN’T say what you claim, so even if there are someone who said it, they must be so little in number that are completelly irrelevant and don’t dispute my point.
>he hasn’t seen this one” with “he’s lying”;
Probably because it’s impossible to miss all the people not fine with Tracer being gay. But as you show in the very next part, you just purposely ignore posts and play pretend to fit your agenda, which it’s a very gamergate thing to do.
>sense just because, like a kid?
I’m not the one writing comics based on strawmen, kid! You are like a perpetually offended bully.
>Also i clicked the first link and the first thing i see is “there’s nothing wrong with Tracer being gay” and a guy complaining only about the timing of it
Right. He’s totally fine with Tracer being gay. He just wrote a long rant about Tracer being gay and how that’s gay propaganda and Blizzard is forcing their belief onto others. But he’s totally fine with Tracer being gay! He’s not homophobic, we swear!
It’s called making excuses to find something to complain about.
You are basically arguing that writing “I’m not homophobic, I just think ” is not homophobic because the person made sure we knew he wasn’t homophobic.
Man, you’re just repeating the same unfounded accusations, just adding some more.
If you want to believe everyone who disagrees with you is lying and everyone who has any complaint about anything surrounding the Tracer incident is truly an homophobe no matter what they say or specify, that’s your prerogative, but that’s called bias. You just see people that way because you want to see it that way.
Btw we are probably reaching the nesting limit of comments here (i think it can’t be expanded more), so at some point we’ll have to respond in different comments.
In other words, your argument relies entirely upon:
1. Opposition to homosexual characters (let alone homosexuality) being so socially unacceptable that–even with the anonymity of the internet–people are terrified of admitting it. I’m pretty sure that destroys your argument by itself, but moving on…
2. Your motive detection abilities, which are apparently supernatural. Which doesn’t help paint the picture of someone that’s completely grounded in reality, which also destroys your argument.
When “making gays visibly exist” is interpreted as “pushing an agenda” (and that complaint was all over the place), it’s pretty much complaining about the character being gay. The comic didn’t make any commentary on how harsh her life as a lesbian is, or how especially cool it is being gay, or anything that can be an actual agenda.
You could try calling it a marketing ploy, but that’s also kind of a stretch. With the concept of Overwatch’s world being an optimistic future that celebrates peoples’ differences (sometimes through stereotypes, but eh, at least the fun ones) and the devs saying pretty early on that there’s an LGBT character in the roster, I can see this being planned before release.
(Also the world isn’t limited to USA, yknow. We don’t have an official translation of the comic here in Russia, because Blizzard could potentially go to court for “gay propaganda”, for example)
I don’t see it that way at all. Complaining about an aspect surrounding a character implementation is NOT complaining about the character sexuality. there are a lot of stuff that can be said about it that have no relationship with homophobia.
I can use myself as an example. I love Tracer since first trailers, so much that i have the 150$ figure (and i bought it after it was known she was gay). My regular comic, monster girls on tour, has a lesbian woman as protagonist. I have gays between my close friends and family and it’s something i don’t even consider about them. Yet, i think the Tracer comic was bad, for the same reasons it would be bad if the characters where straight: Her couple appears out of fucking nowhere.
Blizzard is fucking up very hard on world setting, we know almost nothing about the world of Overwatch or their characters; they give some info from time to time but is not nearly enought for a game that could even have a movie. They should have worked more on setting, introduced some story characters, companions, secondary characters, etc, and then at some point say: Tracer is in a relationship with X of those characters. That would have been cool. Overwatch fans first shipping was Tracer x Widowmaker (which kinda on itself refutes the accusations of homophobia for the whole community).
Instead, what they did what just to Pop up a random character no one knows and has nothing interesting, show her for 3 or 4 panels and say “this is Tracer’s girlfriend”. That’s shit. And i’m suposed to be an homophobe for claiming that?
And that is precisely the problem that cames back to the “pushing agenda” thing. An ambient has been created where you simply CAN’T say anything bad about anything that has a gay in it (and when i say gay i could say black, or women), just because it has a gay in it. Devs now can make shit stories and can’t be called out because if you do you’re an homophobe. In fact, many times those stories are bad BECAUSE they focus more on showing a gay character than actually writing a good story, the Tracer comic being an example of that. That’s exactly what groups like Gamergate mean when we talk about identity politics or pushing agendas. We don’t care that the character is gay but we care that stories and games are being fucked up by focusing on that stuff instead of doing them good, and if you have any complain, you’re an homophobe/sexist/racist.
And btw i don’t live in the US, i live in Spain, which acording to the Pew research center, is the country in the world with more acceptance of gays, and YET i had to read articles saying that the gamer here where all homophobes because Tracer…
>Overwatch fans first shipping was Tracer x Widowmaker (which kinda on itself refutes the accusations of homophobia for the whole community).
Lol, like straight dudes don’t have massive double standards regarding homosexuality. Everyone know you are fine with lesbians and futa as soon you keep it at as a fetish.
So you’re directly showing prejudice against straight people but we are the homophobes for not liking how a comic was done?
Excuse me, but i would like a clarification.
Are you saying that the comunity (or a clearly noticeable part) is homophobic because they were ok with Tracer being lesbian, but they are not ok with Tracer being gay? or at leass they were silent while they were not sure
I know you are arguing the comunity can still be homophobic towards men being gay, but in the context of this discusion your position is for the comunity (or a clearly noticeable part) to be homofobic towards Tracer. Please could you aclare this point?
Also, is it possible that you being from Russia can influence your perception of Tracer’s controversy? With the anti-lgbt environment you are in I mean.
(Not debating, only trying to understand)
I don’t think Tracer’s comic is a good example of what you’re talking about – it alone doesn’t undermine Overwatch’s out-of-game storytelling that is pretty lackluster overall, so the comic just falls under the already set standart; the reveal itself fits into what Overwatch was always trying to accomplish with characters being from different cultures and backgrounds – the message it could carry is super-basic and was there in Overwatch’s bloodstream from the beginning; and as far as the quality of representation goes, it was the right move compared to, for example, creating a whole new character to be The Gay One (this WOULD have fallen under the purview conundrums of whatcha talking about) – because of that those 3-4 panels just seem like a non-issue even from your groups’ pov.
I’m not saying that the news of there being a massive outrage sweeping the entire community, or the whole community being homophobic were right, of course not – that WAS “pushing an agenda”. However, there was lots of whining about the comic itself that was essentially homophobic “tracer’s now homo, i can’t think about her NOT being that, oh the horror, stop with the political agenda in muh games”, when the political agenda behind the reveal was the Diney movie’s “everyone can be a hero!”. Also, just to clarify, “lots of whining” doesn’t always mean “most are homophobes”, survivor’s bias and all.
Shipping doesn’t refute homophobia in the community all-together – often it’s just thinking “who looks sexy kissing/fucking whom” and is not a good metric of respect for LGBT folk in general (looking at you, yaoi girls from the interner of yore). Again, I’m from one the most anti-LGBT countries in the world, and “Lesbian” is in the top three of the most searched tags on porn sites here.
But they did create a new character just to be “the gay one”. That’s what the redhead is about. She’s just a nobody who had never appeared before even in name, created just to be “Tracer’s lesbian girlfriend”. That’s why it’s shit even for OW low story standards. And i’ve been called homophobe several times just for pointing this out.
Oh I forgot
>(not here, they seem to be afraid of debate even online, probably because if they argue with me directly they would be silencing a hispanic D:
No one debates you because only gators visit this site, since you are the only ones that spend their online time obsessed with twitter and tumblr. Keep going with the strawmen.
I found this comic casually on /v/ and everyone was laughing at you!
I was laughing to. Its a funny comic.
a society’s vermin will always fear symbols of authority
in this case probably insecure white women with nothing better to do
Next panel: [Shows the 3 SJWs being chased down by the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea’s army] Army: “Stay away from our Idol!”
2017, the year where the only accepted female characters is the burka wearing communist ones.
What the fuck is everybody talking about in this comment section. I have never seen so many commentson just one comic.
We need a Roof-Top Korean skin.
I readed all Triggerhappy in one take))It is great, tovarich. Despite the fact that in Soviet Russia YOU run and opress SJW, i now have so many new arguments in discussion with those hwo wants to bring this madness forward. We have enough problems with povetry and cosmos program issues)
Cosmos program? what’s that?
Cosmos is not translated By Google from Russian lng word “space”
Same with “tovarich” being “comrade” still just transliterated in Russian instead of being translated.
😀
Thx for gglife comix, I really like to read it. *Thumb_up*
Still, sometimes it seems so scary to think that people, you r pointing at in this series, really exist. D:
Or it may be more accurate to say not “pointing at” but “describing”